« Dr. Newcomer's updates strengthen opinion that Rathergate docs are bogus | Main | Funniest line I've heard today: Oh yes, we're evenhanded at CBS News »

Tuesday, September 14, 2004

Besieged Gunga Dan serves up spitballs on Monday night's CBS Evening News; WaPo and NYT slam them back at high velocity!

Via Ratherbiased, with the help of a sharp-eyed reader's email pointers, here's transcript of Dan Rather's latest defense on the Rathergate docs on Monday night's "CBS Evening News" broadcast.  And you can watch a streaming video of the broadcast here, listed as "Bush Military Debate Goes On." 

Rather's discussion on Monday night included the "lower-case Ls versus numeral-ones" issue that one of Dr. Newcomer's latest updates addresses, as I mentioned in my previous post to this one.

I'd blog at length about this, but what the heck — as shown below, WaPo and NYT are doing my "work" for me now!  For the moment, I have one question of my own to put forward: 

Why didn't CBS News' newest experts demonstrate on the air how these documents could've been created by a 1972-era typewriter? 

If you say it could have been done, then, please, wouldja just do it for us?  And then send the page your guy types up, please, to Dr. Newcomer, along with the closest-to-original version that CBS News has in its possession.  I'll volunteer to front the cost of the armed guard to escort it!

Meanwhile, Tuesday's WaPo — yes, it's the ubiquitous Michael Dobbs again, joined by Howard Kurtz — blasts CBS News with a report that its key expert from last week, handwriting analyst Marcel Matley, is backpedaling furiously:

"There's no way that I, as a document expert, can authenticate them," Marcel Matley said in a telephone interview from San Francisco. The main reason, he said, is that they are "copies" that are "far removed" from the originals.

WaPo quotes Dr. Newcomer, and nicely summarizes " at least three areas of difference that are difficult to reconcile" — word processing versus typewriter techniques, "factual problems" (e.g., Col. Staudt's retirement), and stylistic differences (non-military format and parlance).

And in what must be the fastest debunking by one MSM outlet of another MSM outlet, WaPo pulls down the trousers of CBS News' newest expert:

In its broadcast last night, CBS News produced a new expert, Bill Glennon, an information technology consultant. He said that IBM electric typewriters in use in 1972 could produce superscripts and proportional spacing similar to those used in the disputed documents.

Any argument to the contrary is "an out-and-out lie," Glennon said in a telephone interview. But Glennon said he is not a document expert, could not vouch for the memos' authenticity and only examined them online because CBS did not give him copies when asked to visit the network's offices.

Thomas Phinney, program manager for fonts for the Adobe company in Seattle, which helped to develop the modern Times New Roman font, disputed Glennon's statement to CBS. He said "fairly extensive testing" had convinced him that the fonts and formatting used in the CBS documents could not have been produced by the most sophisticated IBM typewriters in use in 1972, including the Selectric and the Executive. He said the two systems used fonts of different widths.

Talk about getting inside your opponent's analysis and decision-making loop!

It boggles my mind to see the Washington Post write:  "Questions about the CBS documents have grown to the point that they overshadow the allegations of favorable treatment toward Bush."

Meanwhile, the NYT is cultivating moles — very nervous moles — inside Black Rock:

Even inside CBS News there was deepening concern. Some of Mr. Rather's colleagues said in interviews that they were becoming increasingly anxious for him to silence the critics by proving the documents' validity and as new questions about their origin arose. Most declined to be quoted by name....

Several CBS correspondents said in interviews that such developments were making them increasingly nervous.

One network correspondent said, "I've talked to colleagues who would love to see more of a defense."

This person described the state of the staff as "deep concern, I'd say not panic - we all want it to be right." This person, echoing others, said that Mr. Rather's resoluteness in addressing the charges on the air was allaying some of the concern. "Dan really put himself on the line and I can't imagine him knowingly defending something he knew not to be the case."

A longtime correspondent said flatly, "I'm distressed."

To thoroughly mix my animal metaphors:  Gunga Dan, your fellow rats are leaving your sinking ship, my friend.  (See also Jim Geraghty's Kerry Spot, which reports that his source inside CBS said "late Monday night that some of CBS’ news talent who were campaigning for the anchor desk when Rather retires, are more than a little pleased with the recent turn of events."  Has anyone gotten Connie Chung's take on all this?)

The NYT smells the cover-up:

Alex S. Jones, director of the Shorenstein Center at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, said the burden was on CBS to prove its report was accurate beyond standard lines like "We stand by our story."

"I think they should be able to provide credible information about how these memos came into their possession," Mr. Jones said. "And if they cannot provide the name of the source, then they need to make as much transparency as possible."

But CBS News officials have made it clear that they will go only so far. They have repeatedly said they do not believe their source for the documents would go public.

One important question raised inside and outside CBS is whether it knows where the documents, which it admits are not originals but copies, came from in the first place and how many hands they passed through. Sandy Genelius, a network spokeswoman, said, "We are confident about the chain of custody; we're confident in how we secured the documents." She would not elaborate.

And — oh, the irony! — CBS News has apparently turned to pajama-wearing internet addicts to defend it (boldface mine):

Last night, CBS did not present any of the other experts who originally helped it authenticate the documents, beyond mentioning Mr. Matley, who was interviewed on the Friday broadcast. Instead it featured computer and typewriter specialists who had called or posted defenses of CBS on Internet blogs

Not content with WaPo's pantsing of CBS News' newest expert, NYT proceeds to tie his shoelaces together and then give him a big push:

Bill Glennon, a technology consultant and I.B.M. typewriter specialist who had posted his thoughts on the memos on a blog and was quoted over the weekend in publications including The New York Times, said CBS called him Monday morning. The producer asked him to come in and look at the memorandums and say whether he thought that an I.B.M. typewriter could have produced the documents. He said he was initially leery of talking. "Because quite honestly there's some people out there, they're scary," he said. "You don't agree with them, you offer opinions that don't jibe with theirs and you get a target on your back."

Mr. Glennon was in charge of service for 1,000 contracts for I.B.M. typewriters for 15 years, starting in late 1972, around the time the memorandums were produced. He spent 15 minutes with the CBS documents, he said, and believes that they could have been created using the kind of typewriters he worked with at I.B.M.

Fifteen minutes, huh?  Awesome!  I'll bet that's less time than it took you to do the routine maintenance on even a single typewriter back in 1972!  Or was your job typing up the maintenance contracts?  Mr. Glennon, don't worry about targets on your back.  Worry about the large capital L tattooed on your forehead.

Tomorrow night on the "CBS Evening News," we'll probably see Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, a/k/a Kos, who will explain again in more detail that these documents must be as genuine as Dan Rather insists that they are, because, after all, George W. Bush is a very evil man.  Case closed!

Update (Tue Sep 14 @ 5:00am):  Politicalities fisks Rather's defense.  And RatherBiased has updated its post that linked the transcript to include a list of the points Rather failed to address.  Roger L. Simon's not very impressed with the WaPo report because the "mainstream media, if the truth be told, to one degree or another, are all CBS."  Patterico rounds out my links with a post on Rather's circular reasoning.

Posted by Beldar at 01:49 AM in Mainstream Media, Politics (2006 & earlier) | Permalink

TrackBacks

Other weblog posts, if any, whose authors have linked to Besieged Gunga Dan serves up spitballs on Monday night's CBS Evening News; WaPo and NYT slam them back at high velocity! and sent a trackback ping are listed here:


» Memogate Roundup from HobbsOnline

Tracked on Sep 14, 2004 9:25:53 AM

Comments

(1) davod made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 2:49:55 AM | Permalink

The liberal talking heads are still trying to push the - its not the document - its the content that matters. We need to keep everyone honest.

It is the documents, how CBS received them and how CBS reported on the documents that matters.

Look for more false evidence appearing real in the MSM near you.

These people are trying to swing an election!

(2) Ed Jordan made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 7:10:26 AM | Permalink

Beldar,
Excellent post.

(3) ncoic6 made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 7:22:02 AM | Permalink

Beldar:

Another good post and another quality article by Dobbs (and his team at the WaPo). Keep that in mind for the next time Dobbs writes something that people may not like. Cut him some slack.

Dobbs has to be accurate in what he quotes and cites. We in the blogosphere can make mistakes, we will admit them, and go on. For the major press, a lot of time is taken to make sure that the facts cited are accurate. [and yes, many times the editors let their POV rule; i.e., Boston Globe]

This is an important article because it is written on a very tight deadline, but incorporates a complete and balanced examination of both sides of this "document" issue.

It suggests that the WaPo is monitoring the ongoing debate in the parallel universe of the internet. It is using leads supplied by the internet discussions to further probe the story.

(4) Stewart Vardaman made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 8:26:27 AM | Permalink

They did "just do it", and were transporting it via armed guards. Unfortunately, they were driving a 60 Minutes-doctored Audi 5000, and were involved in a tragic Sudden Unintended Acceleration accident.

(5) MaDr made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 10:18:15 AM | Permalink

Not so fast - cut Dobbs some slack in the future? Because the shark smells blood in the water and making the most of the opportunity. He's still (and always will be) bent. His Bronze Star piece was an effort that I thought fell well short, and with no follow-up. How could anyone miss the fact that the Spot was written entirely from Kerry's perspective, thereby lending credence to the claim that Kerry wrote it.

Just because Dobbs is less biased than Dionne or Krugman, doesn't earn him any slack (IMHO).

(6) ncoic6 made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 11:37:45 AM | Permalink

MaDr

Your skepticism is well earned. Please consider this. We are witnessing a "defining moment" in journalism.

The people who decide what is going to get in the paper are the editors, not the reporters. What the reporter initially writes and what appears in the paper after editing can be two different articles.

The reporters who are writing these articles on the hot topic of the day are also on deadlines - all the while being assaulted by spin artists from all sides prior to publication. Then they get assaulted from critics on all sides after publication. Meanwhile they are working on the next story and the next deadline.

Mr. Dobbs has delivered two well-written articles in a short period of time that clarify controversial issues in a main stream publication.

The follow-ups will never be as quick as we might like, if even done. A newspaper is not just a pack of reporters chasing one story all over the place. It is a collective enterprise involving many individuals making decisions at different levels.

I share with you the observation that there is a liberal inclination that permeates how the news is presented in MSM. The advent of the internet is slowly changing that. This year we have witnessed the inability of the MSM to dictate fully what constitutes "news".

It should be borne in mind that it is the editor who calls the shots, not the reporter.

(7) MaDr made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 2:31:44 PM | Permalink

ncoic6

I'm not a skeptic. Hell, I'm worse - I'm a cynic. I'm just a skeptic on my better days.

(8) GT made the following comment | Sep 14, 2004 6:06:41 PM | Permalink

Beldar, did you see this?

(9) Stephen M. St. Onge made the following comment | Sep 15, 2004 1:02:33 AM | Permalink

Beldar:

    Very good post, but you missed one little thing.

According to the NYT, Glennon said

Mr. Glennon was in charge of service for 1,000 contracts for I.B.M. typewriters for 15 years, starting in late 1972, around the time the memorandums were produced. He spent 15 minutes with the CBS documents, he said, and believes that they could have been created using the kind of typewriters he worked with at I.B.M.

    But the WaPo says he told them

But Glennon said he is not a document expert, could not vouch for the memos' authenticity and only examined them online because CBS did not give him copies when asked to visit the network's offices.

    So, just what did Mr. Typewriter repairman see?  Inquiring pajama wearers want to know!

The comments to this entry are closed.